differently. During the hike, it occurred to me how much I’d like to do a project in the forest. The forest offers you a special acoustic situation, for it being totally open on the one side, and because of the tree trunks, totally closed-off on the other. I’d like to use that… Question from the audience: To set a forest to music…?

RL: Not exactly to set it to music. But I could, perhaps, give the forest something that it lacks – or take something from it. I had the idea of developing an effect from that situation, an echo program, but it was already done: a firma called TC developed a forest-echo program, where it was possible to regulate the thickness of tree trunks and the position of listeners, or better, the exact distance from the forest or tree trunks…

DD: There’s a saying: How you call into forest is how it’s called out again.

IA: Do you have a special dream? Maybe something connected to the forest we discussed? And that question leads to another: we recently discussed sound design, and I was wondering whether, as «to rococo rot» or at all, you ever worked in the area of

sound design?

RL: Computer-game sounds would be exciting, and now these games have reached a level that makes them interesting in the first place. As «to rococo rot,» we presented a work in the Museum for Applied Arts in Cologne, in which all of the sounds that we used were, in fact, designed: for example, the doors of Porsches. Sound design even plays an important role with beer: how beer sounds when poured into a glass, the noise made when swallowing, or the sound the foam makes, which should begin as loud and effervescent, before growing softer and fading out in a higher tone – that calls for investing a lot of time and energy. Or take chips: in Cologne, we invited a specialist who held a lecture on the subject. He spoke of small machines that can chew chips. Such a chip is a legitimate resonance body, like a violin, and when it’s broken or broken open, it doesn’t chew in quite the same way as before. In the museum, we created an installation with these sounds. I see it as an exciting field. Of course, here, too, you have to work with industrial products, and with firms. I don’t feel particularly at ease in that area.